Israel moet actief streven naar vrede in het Midden-Oosten (Haaretz)

Israel moet stoppen met het uitbreiden van nederzettingen in bezet Palestijns gebied en
streven naar directe vredesonderhandelingen om een einde te maken aan het conflict, meent
Haaretz.
Een derde intifada dreigt en het aanzien van Israel in de wereld is gekelderd.
De recente ‘ridicule’ oproepen van de regering aan Israeli’s om het ‘andere’ Israel aan de wereld uit te leggen, kunnen een serieus beleid gericht op een doorbraak in het vredesproces niet vervangen.

Een mening waarin elke onbevooroordeelde waarnemer zich in kan vinden, denk ik.
Maar zij is tegengesteld aan die van zionisten in Israel en de ‘Israel lobby’, die streven naar
Eretz Yisrael=Groot Israel. Daarin is geen plaats voor een Palestijnse staat, laat staan een met Oost Jeruzalem als hoofdstad. Hun ‘Hasbara’-propaganda werkt niet meer.

Secret Israeli report: U.S. cozying up to Palestinians (Haaretz)

The U.S. administration will not put a lot of effort into the upcoming indirect negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians, opting instead to focus on the November Congressional elections, according to an internal Foreign Ministry report that was distributed to Israeli diplomatic missions abroad. 

The classified report claims that in the preparatory discussions for the Israeli-Palestinian proximity talks the Obama administration adopted positions that are closer to Palestinian demands. 

"The recent American statements point to the adoption of wording in line, even if partially and cautiously, with Palestinian demands in regard to the framework and structure of negotiations," the report stated. "Still, the [U.S.] administration is making sure to avoid commenting on its position on core issues." 

 

U.S. Mideast envoy George Mitchell arrived in Israel last night for what is expected to be a final series of talks before the official announcement of the resumption of talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, in an indirect format. 

The proximity talks are to continue for four months. They will involve Mitchell going between Jerusalem and Ramallah, relaying messages and responses, or, alternatively, talks in either Washington or Europe. ..

Editorial / U.S. is proving it wants Mideast peace – now it’s Israel’s turn (Haaretz Editorial)

The visit to Israel this week by U.S. Vice President Joseph Biden, along with American Middle East envoy George Mitchell’s meetings here, testify to the United States’ readiness to not miss the opportunity to advance the peace process. The latest American diplomatic effort comes on the heels of the Arab League granting Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas qualified "permission" to conduct indirect talks with Israel – which also represents an important gesture on the part of those countries that have signed on to the Arab peace initiative. 

On the other hand, a recent Israeli Foreign Ministry report indicates that the U.S. administration has no intention of expending too great an effort to achieve a solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and that the Obama administration’s positions are closer to those held by the Palestinians than to Israel’s stance. 

Israel and the Palestinians must decide which of the two perspectives they will embrace: either the view that hope is still not abandoned, or the one that dampens expectations entirely. If Israel intends to do nothing more than evade responsibility for the failure of the peace process and placate the U.S. administration until the expiration of the settlement construction freeze, it would be better not to launch the indirect talks at all. Every past diplomatic step that turned out to be nothing more than another exercise in evasion only served to push the peace process several substantial steps backward, leaving in its wake great despair and frustration that gave rise to more violence.

Israël medeschuldig aan slechte imago wereldwijd (Reformatorisch Dagblad)

Israël is medeschuldig aan de slechte pers die het land wereldwijd krijgt, vindt Bert de Bruin. Zolang de regering haar beleid niet serieus verandert, zal het imago van Israël ook niet beter worden.

Netanyahu’s rhetoric over policy is jeopardizing Israel (Haaretz Editorial)

The Israeli prime minister apparently believed that by conducting two-track negotiations he could make things coalition-friendly: to both espouse the slogan "two states for two peoples" and sabotage the Palestinians’ ability to set up their state; to both embrace Vice President Joe Biden and give the U.S. administration the finger; to both ask the administration to get Mahmoud Abbas back to the negotiating table and put thumbtacks on his seat once he’s there. 

Judging by the statements of Benjamin Netanyahu and his associates, even now that the American flamethrower is aimed right at him and Israel, he still believes that everything was a misunderstanding, and if he asks nicely to be forgiven or launches an inquiry into what happened, all his transgressions will be absolved…


The government headed by Netanyahu is now emerging as a strategic threat. It is essential to remove that threat by adopting an open and responsible policy that will include an undertaking to withdraw from the territories and a total freeze on construction in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. We must also set a final date for the conclusion of negotiations.

Israel envoy: U.S. ties at their lowest ebb in 35 years

Reactie op het artikel “Ludo Abicht schetst de stand van zaken” in De Standaard van 13/03/2010.

Ludo Abicht merkt terecht op dat Israël er niet aan denkt op te gaan in een binationale staat. Ook de Palestijnen zijn kwasi unaniem om niet samen te leven in één staat met moordenaars en kolonisten die hen al decennia het leven zuur maken…

A Matter of Timing – Uri Avnery’s Column 
It’s all a matter of timing. The Government of Israel has insulted the Vice President of the United States, Joe Biden, one of the greatest “friends” of Israel (meaning: somebody totally subservient to AIPAC) and spat in the face of President Barack Obama. So what? It’s all a matter of timing.
If the government had announced the building of 1600 new housing units in East Jerusalem a day earlier, it would have been OK. If it had announced it three days later, it would have been wonderful. But doing it exactly when Joe Biden was about to have dinner with Bibi and Sarah’le – that was really bad timing.

The matter itself is not important. Another thousand housing units in East Jerusalem, or 10 thousand, or 100 thousand – what different does it make? The only thing that matters is the timing.

As the Frenchman said: It’s worse than criminal, it’s stupid…

IN MEMORIAM:

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rachel Corrie
Born Rachel Corrie
April 10, 1979
Died March 16, 2003 (aged 23)
Alma mater Capital High SchoolThe Evergreen State College (TESC)
Home town Olympia, Washington, United States
Parents Craig Corrie, Cindy Corrie

Rachel Aliene Corrie (April 10, 1979 – March 16, 2003) was an American member of the International Solidarity Movement (ISM) who was killed by a bulldozer operated by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) while attempting to prevent IDF forces from demolishing the home of local Palestinian pharmacist Samir Nasrallah. According to the New York Times, Corrie and others were acting as "human shields." A student at the Evergreen State College, she had taken a year off and traveled to the Gaza Strip during theSecond Intifada.[1] The details of the events surrounding Corrie’s death are still disputed.
"Breaking The Silence:" Testimonies Of 
Israeli Soldiers

"Breaking the Silence is an organization of veteran Israeli soldiers that collects anonymous testimonies of soldiers who served in the Occupied Territories during the Second Intifada." They recount experiences that deeply affected them, including abusing Palestinians, looting, destroying property, and other practices "excused as military necessities, or explained as extreme and unique cases."..

Palestinian aspirations are clear, but what does Israel want? (By Gideon Levy, Haaretz Correspondent)

Gaza-oorlog: toepassing van Israel’s militaire ‘Dahiyah Doctrine’

Israel’s toepassen van massaal militair geweld tegen de militair (oneindig) veel zwakkere, maar politiek moeilijk te onderwerpen, verzetsbeweging Hamas in Gaza, paste in haar nieuwe ‘Dahiyah Doctrine’. Volgens deze doctrine mogen bijv. dorpen van waaruit op Israel of Israeliers wordt geschoten, als vijandelijke stellingen worden aangevallen zonder onderscheid te maken tussen militaire- en burgerdoelen…

De zionistische (Groot-)’Israel lobby’ in Nederland: een noodzakelijke inventarisatie

 

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9 thoughts on “Israel moet actief streven naar vrede in het Midden-Oosten (Haaretz)

  1. Vrede in het Midden Oosten, maar zou dat mogelijk zijn zonder de positieve help van de heer J.J.W van Waning?
    Als je zijn artiekel leest zie je dat het alleen citaten zijn, behalve zijn naam is er niets orgineels van hem, dat doet mij vermoeden dat onze grote Israel vriend (ik zei niet vriend van groot Israel, want dat is iets anders, iets zoals Groot Nederland, dat sommige Vlaamse en Nederlandse groepen proberen te propageren). Meneer van Waning, (en ik ben heel voorzichtig, want een verkeerd woordje, en ik word er uit geflikkerd, want hij houd niet van tegenspraak, en dat is zo wie zo moeilijk, want hij verteld ons niets alleen maar wat andere gochems hebben gezegd volgens hem.
    Ja ik ben nog steeds kwaad op de nonsens van verleden week toen hij schreef over de disproportional Gaza war, en ik hem vroeg of als officier hij dit principe ook had aangehouden, dwz eerst uitvinden hoeveel mensen en welke wapens de vijand heeft, dan zijn onderzeeboot naar de haven varen, soldaten en wapens ontladen, om een fair (eerlijk) duel te hebben met zijn vijand.
    Weten jullie moeders en vaders van de soldaten die nu in levens gevaar verkeren in het buitenland (voor de Nato) dat dit waarschijnlijk een doctrine is van de dappere Nederlandse officiers (ridders), gentlemen tot de dood (van hun onderschikten dan).
    Wat weet JJW van Waning over Hasbarah en Groot Israel, volgens zijn schrijven, heel weinig, en ik als Israeli in en strookje land dat 25 kilometer breed is, tussen Palestina en de Middelandse zee, met buurstad in de West bank Kalkilliah, die ik van mijn raam ziet, is niet voor Groot Israel, en de meeste mensen die ik ken hier in Israel, denken er precies zo als ik over. En dan zijn nonsens over Hasbarah (uitleg of propaganda), wat volgens hem is georganiseerd door de regering, zo wat, de VVV in Nederland is niet door de regering gefinanceerd?
    Maar wij houden van ons land en hebben de Hasbarah niet nodig om mensen zoals deze gepensioneerde officier tegen te spreken.
    Inderdaad willen wij vrede, maar zonder van Wanings help.
    Shalom
    David Verveer

  2. Vandaag. een artikel in Aljazeera geeft kennelijk aan dat woord en daad in Israel twee verschillende ‘grootheden’ zijn.
    Israel’s move to expand illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank has threatened to sabotage newly agreed indirect talks with the Palestinian Authority before they can even begin.
    George Mitchell, the US envoy to the Middle East, announced on Monday that the two sides had agreed a day earlier to begin indirect negotiations that have been stalled since the December 2008 Gaza war.
    He said he hoped the indirect talks would "lead to direct negotiations as soon as possible" and appealed to the two sides not do to anything that could jeopardise the talks.
    But news that Israel’s defence ministry had approved the construction of 112 new apartments in the West Bank settlement of Beitar Illit drew a sharp response from the Palestinians.
    Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, reportedly told Mitchell when they met in Ramallah on Monday that if Israel continued to embarrass the Palestinian Authority with more settlement construction, the talks would go back into deep freeze.
    Saeb Erekat, the leading Palestinian negotiator, accused Israel of trying to undermine the talks even before they beginhttp://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/03/2010390545730388.html

  3. En Ben wat wil je daarmee zeggen, dat je Engels kan lezen, of dat Aljazeera een objectieve reporter is?
    Wat weet jij nu eigenlijk van objectieve sources, hoe en waarom denk je dat het spel van Abbas en Erekat een goede aus-schmoes is om te beweren dat de andere kant schuldig is, hoe kan jij in hemelsnaam weten wie de waarheid spreekt. Jij beweerde in een van je knappe reacties, dat je vrede in het Midden Oosten wil, als dat waar is, zou ik je aanraden niet de mond van de Arabieren te zijn, en meer attentie geven aan een andere oorlog in het Midden Oosten, waar jou land wel in betrokken is.
    David Verveer, Israel

  4. Gideon Levy stelt heel simpel en direct dat het zionisme nooit een vredesbeweging is geweest. Het in bezit nemen van de eigendommen van anderen in het jaar 1948 was en is een daad van onrecht die niet goed mag worden gepraat. Vrede betekent schuld bekennen en op grond daarvan een rechtvaardige deal sluiten.
    Omdat rechts altijd voor oorlog zal pleiten (onrecht is alleen slecht wanneer eigen belangen worden geschaad) richt hij zich op ‘links’ – een beweging die in Israel niet schijnt te bestaan: "A left wing unwilling to dare to deal with 1948 is not a genuine left wing."

  5. David Verveel,
    Dat is geen verspreking!
    Je repliek is vaak ontspeend van enig zinvol en inhoudelijk kommentaar.

  6. Israel must talk to Hamas.
    Not secretly. Not indirectly. … Just as the United States regularly talks to the Israeli opposition, Israel should maintain a dialogue with the Palestinian opposition. The dialogue should cover all core issues including a final settlement.
    It’s not a simple matter, of course. There is agreement across the political spectrum to reduce the debate to a demonization of Hamas, dwelling on the organization’s external attributes as perceived by Israel – religious, extremist and desiring all the territory between the river and the sea. This debate does not focus on the Israeli interest. We should be asking ourselves the following questions: Is it worthwhile to speak with Hamas? What are our reasons for not talking to them? Is boycotting them linked to an erroneous preconception?
    Israel rigorously insists that Hamas is not a partner and that our partner is Fatah, headed by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. But negotiations with Fatah have been going on for nearly two decades, and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s declaration that he accepts the principle of two states for two peoples looks like just another trick to postpone the demise of the current negotiation process.
    In 2004, the Israeli government decided that Yasser Arafat was not relevant. Abbas, Israel’s leaders have said, is weak. At the same time, Israel has for years been doing all it can to weaken the Palestinian Authority. That way, it will be possible to prove yet again that although "we have to talk, there’s no one you can close a deal with." Even if an agreement is signed under American pressure, the PA will not be able to implement it because more than half the Palestinians don’t accept its authority. This is why the refusal to speak with Hamas is pointless. It is no more than a continuation of avoiding talking to the Palestinians by other means.
    Hamas’ rule in Gaza is the outcome of despair with the Fatah leadership. The deterioration of the situation in Gaza after the ongoing failure of negotiations and the total dependence on Israel for receiving basic needs intensify the despair and extremism… Even today, there are groups resisting Hamas that resemble Al-Qaida. We can drag things out as much as we want, but we have to admit that the notion that time is on our side is baseless. The people who led Abbas to consider resigning and who refuse to talk to Hamas will find themselves in five years with a partner who reports to Osama bin Laden.
    Nothing is possible without Gilad Shalit. People may say that the fate of a country cannot be dependent on what happens to one abducted soldier. There is no greater mistake. The abandonment of Shalit is symptomatic of Zionism’s failure, the elevation of pride over wisdom and tactics over strategy. It’s the denial of the sanctity of life and redeeming prisoners, values that are at the heart and soul of the nation.
    …More than 7,000 Palestinians are being held prisoner in Israel. There is one Israeli prisoner in Palestine. The suffering of both sides, and with it the tremendous joy that a prisoner exchange would produce, can and should be the lever for a stepped-up conciliation process.
    For years Israel and its citizens have been paying the price of choosing solutions that were appropriate for the last war. Hiding our head in the sand at such a critical stage is dangerous. ….The writer is a joint founder of an initiative seeking direct and open talks with Hamas. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1155112.html

  7. Over vredeswensen van Israel gesproken!!!!
    Wie neemt Israel nog serieus?!
    UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Tuesday condemned Israeli plans to build 1,600 more homes in an ultra-Orthodox East Jerusalem neighborhood, echoing comments made earlier by U.S. Vice President Joe Biden.
    "The secretary-general condemns the approval of plans for the building of 1,600 new housing units in East Jerusalem by the Israeli Ministry of Interior earlier today," U.N. spokesman Martin Nesirky said in a statement.
    "[Ban] reiterates that settlements are illegal under international law," he said. "Furthermore, he underscores that settlement activity is contrary to Israel’s obligations under the Roadmap, and undermines any movement towards a viable peace process."
    Meanwhile on Tuesday, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sought to alleviate new tensions with the United States, after the announcement that Israel will build 1,600 new homes in East Jerusalem drew strong condemnation from the White House, and visiting U.S. Vice President Joe Biden.
    The prime minister reportedly promised Biden "No one was seeking to embarrass you or undermine your visit – on the contrary, you are a true friend to Israel."http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1155460.html

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